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Thank you Dany
- Hello Philippe Cronier (pseudo
Phicro on BBO) and to grant this
maintenance to me.
You are one of the best French
players, you belong to the team
of Open France, you have a role
near the European Federation of
Bridge, you are Responsable for
teaching and of the unit of
research near the University of
the Bridge and you have many
activities related to the Bridge.
Is it indiscreet to ask you
your age and your birthplace?
PC - I will be soon 53 years
old, I was born in Ermont, a city
of the Parisian suburbs, in the
Valley of Oise precisely.
Dany - can you tell us your
course?
PC - Nothing very original! I
made studies of engineer
statistician, I started to work
with INSEE, and I quickly stopped
to play full-time bridge. I met
my Bénédicte wife with the
tournament of Baule, it was not
18 years old. When our first
child was born, it was necessary
to transform what was until there
only one passion in means of
earning money
I started to
give some courses and to play
sponsored. I was likely to meet
people who helped me at this time
much there, particularly Michel
Zadouroff, who offered to me to
deal with the bridge with the
club Omar Sharif, and Gilles
Cohen, who made me work with him
with the federation. I then
started to write - polys,
articles and even a book! With
Gilles, we created the first
training courses of bridge within
the framework of the University
of the Bridge. Then, with some
friends (Michel Bessis, Nicolas
Déchelette, Alain Lévy and
Philippe Poizat) we created the
training courses Top Bridge with
the Arcs, in 1984. Twenty-two
years later, they always exist!
Another important turning of
my professional life occurred
when Gilles Cohen - still him -
created a newspaper of plays (To
play asset) in 1992. This
newspaper had various satellites,
including one devoted to the
bridge, Jouer Bridge. I assumed
the drafting in chief of it. To
play asset stopped quickly, but
the principal writers To play
Bridge joined to take again the
title. In spite of some
misadventures related to the
tumultuous life of a newspaper,
Jouer Bridge always appears, and
I am always the rédac' chief.
Parallel to my occupation of
professor and journalist of
bridge, I always practised the
bridge of competition. My voyage
to Warsaw in next August will
constitute my fifth appearance in
team of Open France. The first
date of 1983 and constitutes my
best memory, since with Michel
Corn, and associated Lebel-Perron
and Mouiel-Swarc, we gained the
championship of Europe by four in
Wiesbaden. A performance that
unfortunately no French team was
able to republish since. During
my (long!) career, I played with
the majority of the best French
players. Inter alia Michel Lebel,
Philippe Soulet, Nicolas
Déchelette and, last goal not
least, Paul Chemla. I must
acknowledge that I owe them much,
having always been likely to play
with people whom I thought
stronger than me!
Dany - When and how you began
with the Bridge?
PC - I discovered the bridge
in my grandparents, who played
with friends each Saturday. As of
the ten years age, I started to
look at. One year later, the
fourth envisaged was
countermanded at the last time
and, in front of the distress
general, I proposed my
services
I continued to
play from time to time during my
adolescence, until I meet of the
bridge players more informed much
than me in Sup Maths. Among them,
there was Michel Bessis! It is
them which initiated me with the
life of the clubs and the bridge
of competition.
Dany - the Bridge has--it, as
of the beginning, summer a great
passion and did you think of
reaching this level?
PC - I will answer the second
question initially. Nobody,
except which gallops megalomania
or characterized unconsciousness
(I have names
) cannot
seriously imagine to become a
champion in a discipline where it
begins. For the players of my
generation, who are numerous to
be trained in the large Parisian
clubs (Montaigne, Albarran, BCP)
this claim was all the more
perilous as we côtoyions daily
of authentic champions and that
those did not fail to show all
way to us which remained us to be
achieved. An anecdote to
illustrate this last point:
whereas we were only one year old
of federal licence, Michel Bessis
had already discovered the way of
the BCP and there proposes to me
to go to make a turn. I listen to
it and finds me later some time
with the door of the 68,
boulevard of Courcelles, a
splendid apartment opposite the
Monceau park. A man sat in the
corridor - I will learn later
that it is about Domenica
Poubeau. It challenges me:
you wish? One
that you organize
duplicates
You
are which classification said to
me? I am 3rd Pique
series, but
Ah!
Eh well, return to see us when
you will be first series! .
I cannot say that the bridge
has me of entry of impassioned
play. Kid, I liked to play all
card decks, the bridge seemed to
me a intellectual challenge, in
little as the maths which
represented at the time the
essence of my activity. It is
then that I came from there not
to think more but of the bridge,
initially because I there found
or found people very sympathetic
nerves - of which, at the time,
much, really much of people of my
age - then because I was really
taken of passion for the
competition. Always with the BCP,
which meanwhile had become my
house (! ) the aforementioned
competition was daily: the
duplicates were organized with
two captains who chose, on the
list of the registered voters,
the players who were going to
compose their team. If you had
made a blow of 13 the day before,
you tremble not to be chosen and
to make tapestry! A very hard
school, but very formative.
Dany - Which profession did
you plan to exert?
PC - As I mentioned it above
to you, I worked as statistician
with INSEE, which depends on the
Ministry for Finances, during
nearly three years. I dealt with
investigation into the wages in
the companies and, my faith, it
was rather interesting.
Dany - Your life was, finally,
devoted to the Bridge?
PC - Paradoxically, I am a
dilettante. Then, yes, I
enormously devoted time to the
bridge, under all his aspects,
but I always kept an interest for
many other fields. Politics and
economics, the piano,
reading
For two years, I
have played poker also much on
Internet. Without counting that
if it had been needed, I would
have without hesitating to give
up the bridge for my family.
Dany - What is what
makes a Champion?
Which are qualities necessary:
ambition, work, gift? These 3
essential qualities, how are they
distributed on your premise?
PC - Here is a quite difficult
question! I would have a a little
different approach. What makes a
champion, it is the experiment
and the mental one: obstinacy,
resistance to the suffering,
confidence. It is hard, a
championship! To become a good
player, which is not the same
thing, of course requires a
little talent and much work. For
my part, to work the bridge cost
to me forever, that it is alone,
while reading or while
reflecting, or with my partners.
As for the ambition, it is, there
still paradoxically, the
quality of which I
smell myself less provided. The
results, the titles, arrive a
little all alone, when one is the
good day there. How Joe Silver, a
Canadian champion says it,
through always playing the
championships of the world, one
ends up gaining one of them!
Dany - Which (S) form (S) of
work, of drive, privilege you?
Your preferred method? Most
effective?
Reading of specialized works,
discussions with specialists,
play with the table with large
players?
PC - I have on this question a
very clear idea. Though one
thinks about it, the bridge is
not a theoretical discipline, but
an activity which is played
around a table (or on Internet)
with other players. One does not
involve oneself effectively that
while playing with its partner of
give and still give. A recent
example: we played, Paul Chemla
and me, the match of drive
against Poland a few days ago
(here besides which constitutes
an excellent drive). In side, I
had 10 9 8 3 in a color or my
partner started Ace. To show my
account, I provided the 9, a
chart which I always provided
with all my partners. Eh well,
Paul did not include/understand
because provides him the 10 in
this situation. We have played
together for more than four
years, we discussed billion
things, and undoubtedly also of
this one, but the fact of having
met the situation with the table
finally enabled us to agree. Note
well that to be effective, the
play must accompany by a joint
discussion on the encountered
problems. If not, one does not
make progress.
Dany - Which councils would
you give the initial players who
have the will, if not to become
Champion of World, but at the
very least to acquire a good
level?
PC - To progress is conceived
for me, you included/understood
it, only while playing, with the
best possible players and
especially against the best
possible players. This is why the
large Parisian clubs about which
I spoke higher were incomparable
crucibles.
For as much, to play is not
enough. It is necessary to have a
sufficient basic technical
luggage, which one finds in the
books or near the good players,
or of the good professors. In
this respect, it is not essential
to take courses for learning how
well to play bridge. But the
courses save time! Concerning the
books, a a little serious
candidate cannot be satisfied
with the French literature of
bridge. It is necessary to read
in English, especially (but not
only) for the card deck. Reassure
the anglophobes, English of the
bridge is very easy to
include/understand
A last word, more original. To
make progress with the bridge, it
is necessary to think of it. To
be posed, with oneself, of the
questions about what one did well
or badly. To have a personal idea
of the play. The others can help
you there, but at the end it is
you who, the next time, with the
table, will have to make a
decision. And there, nobody will
be there to blow you.
Dany - It is said that the 2sa
fitté and 3 its fitté soon will
be incorporated in the SEF.
Can you say some to us more on
their development?
Which is or which are the
advantages of these new
conventions?
PC - a new edition of the SEF
indeed will appear at the end of
June. There are many small
modifications (last grinding goes
back to 1995) among which the
introduction of the fitté 2SA.
The Teaching National
Commission, which decides
contents of the S.E.F., adopted
itself on a very simple
definition: the bidding of 2SA is
used each time one has what to
make a proposal of handle in the
major one of opening of the
partner, with exactly three
assets. There is the right to
have four charts (perhaps even
five) in the other major one. The
developments are very simple,
them also: the return to the
stage of 3 in the color of
opening is a stop, the jump with
the stage of 4 a conclusion, 3SA
a proposal for a contract. All
the other biddings are natural
biddings of slam.
The true consequence of the
use of the fitté 2SA is to be
sought side of the biddings
sustained pressure or not
sustained pressure with the
second turn. Once regulated the
problem of the limiting hands,
one can use all the biddings of
support for jump with the second
turn to indicate ambitions of
slam. For example:
Northern south
1 1 
2 3 
Becomes sustained pressure.
In the same way, the supports
differed after 2 out of 1, even
without jump, are also sustained
pressure and carrying hopes of
slam:
Northern south
1 2 
2 3 
Sustained pressure
It is simplification in the
sequences of slam induced by the
convention which constitutes the
principal advantage of it. To
also carry to its credit the fact
that the declaration of the
sleeve is often faster and thus
gives less indications to the
adversary. The disadvantages
exist, unfortunately. To lose the
natural bidding of 2SA
necessitates convolutions to
declare 3SA, one reperd here what
one gained there. Moreover, one
often loses a useful turn of
bidding in the description of the
hand of the opener for the slam.
Compare these two sequences:
1 - 2 - 2 - 3 and
1 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 NT - 3
In the second sequence, North,
before expressing its made in
Cur in an imperative way,
learned that its test had a
regular hand of the weak zone,
with the stop with Carreau and
without three charts with Trèfle
ordered by an honor. In the
first, it did not learn anything
since it is the opener which must
judge its charts for the slam.
The decision of the Teaching
National Commission has in fact
more obeyed arguments of nature
more statistical than technical.
Today, the fitté 2SA is
practised in the majority of the
French clubs and by the majority
of the players. It is thus
reasonable to make it appear in
the French system!
The adoption of the fitté 3SA,
to indicate a bidding being
equivalent to a support for the
sleeve in a hand without
singleton comprising at least
four assets, is not yet really
decided. This convention indeed
has as a corollary the use of
Splinters and the support for the
stage of 4 considered as a
stopping. If this way of making
is universally widespread in the
good players, it is likely to be
a little difficult to control by
less senior players.
Dany - Which (S) other (S)
change (S) important (S) will be
there in the new edition of the
SEF?
PC - an important change: from
now on, all the changes of color
in response to an intervention
are sustained pressure. One puts
oneself thus in conformity with
the majority practice of the
champions and, more important,
with what the beginners learned
in the French Bridge.
In addition, a version of a
simplified Roudi is
being studied, but it is not
certain that we arrived to
something of really satisfactory.
On the other hand, an
interesting innovation is the
publication of a sheet of
convention préremplie - and
relatively detailed - in S.E.F.
This tool should allow two
occasional partners in a club of
knowing what they play in a few
seconds.
Dany - can you say to me how
had the choice of the 3rd pair
for the open team?
PC I am not certain to have of
it the right, the charter of the
team of France imposing to me a
duty of reserve (lol). In fact,
it is rather simple: we could
choose a pair among those which
had disputed the final phases.
After discussion, we decided for
Lévy-Mouiel, the other choice
seeming to us possible being
Quantin-Multon.
Dany - On which (S) criterion
(S)?
PC - Three fundamental
criteria: the technical quality
of the pair, its international
experiment, and its capacity to
be integrated harmoniously into
our team.
Dany - the Lévy/Mouiel pair,
respectively 10th and 11th with
the classification of the French
players, T it be selected for its
last performances has? At the
world classification, they arrive
behind Chemla 24e world player,
in 31e position for Mouiel and
34e for Lévy. Other French being
far behind.
PC - Not that for its last
performances! Better being
has been is worth
than never been said
somebody, but Lévy and Mouiel
form a pair in full activity
which continues to obtain good
results. Curiously, they are in
this moment more at ease abroad
that in France. Let us recall
that they gained there is two
years the tournament on
invitation in Copenhagen and
finished seconds of the test by
four of Cavendish in Las Vegas.
In same Cavendish, which gathers
all the best pairs of the world,
they always finished up to now
among the French best classified.
Dany - wouldn't have been more
judicious to take the 8 best
French players of the moment to
train the Open team?
PC - D' access one needs only
six of them! Then, that wants to
say the best French players
of the moment? Are this
those which are at the head
national classification? Then it
is about those which played the
most tests, for example mixed,
senior or junior. Are this those
which gained the great
tournaments per French pairs, of
Juan the Pines to National
Division per pairs? Then one
cannot be sure that they will
renew their performance within
the framework of a team of four.
Are this finally those which the
rumour indicates like the best?
One is not far from throwing
oneself in the arms of a
selector, that of which nobody
wants in France
Dany - In this kind of
selection the cohesion of the
team, the friendly relations, are
the feeling
as important or
more important as the personal
results of a selected player?
PC - I do not think that the
friendly relations between the
players are an indispensable
condition of a good result in a
championship. I on the other hand
believe that one needs a good
mutual regard of the practised
bridge, in order to ensure a
cohesion which, it, is essential
in a championship which lasts
fifteen days. The results of a
player, on the other hand, are
not so important. That it or not
is wanted, the unit, with the
bridge, it is the pair.
Dany - I think in particular
of Catherine d' Ovidio, who very
gained, which is number 1 world
among women, number 1 in the
French bridge players, in front
of Chemla.
How do you explain that it did
not enter the open team?
PC - I have the greatest
friendship and the deepest regard
for Catherine, who is my partner
of mixed and who saved to me this
year the first edition of
National Division per mixed
pairs. I would like however to
moderate a little your matter on
the classification. Catherine is
at the head of the two above
mentioned classifications thanks
to her formidable results in
Ladies and Mixed (inter alia, two
titles of champion of the world
in two years, excuse
little
). But, to my
knowledge, it forever gained
large Open title. Neither
National Division (that it
disputes) neither the
championship of France per pairs,
nor Interclubs. Either besides
that the Selection, in spite of
the excellent course that it
there carried out this year,
associated a less tested
considered pair. Beyond all that,
the reason for which the
candidature of Catherine and her
partner Danièle Gaviard even was
not seriously evoked is much
simpler: they have right now
their place in team of France
Ladies, with, as it is not
necessary no to point out it, of
excellent chances to obtain an
excellent result there. Why
decapitate this team whereas it
was possible to find into Open an
at least equivalent pair?
Dany - Certain Champions
complain that the FFB is not
interested in the bridge of the
elite, does not do anything to
ensure best the conditions
(psychological and material)
necessary to their success at the
time of the important
competitions or in the
preparation of these
competitions. What do you think
about it?
PC - let us not mix all. The
teams of France, open, ladies,
senior and even junior, among
best are treated world, and it is
the Federation which provides for
it. The living conditions in the
championships have been in
general excellent, the Federation
take responsibility for its all
the expenses related with the
championships and, for a few
years, pour a premium of victory
at the end of the selection which
are connected with a remuneration
of the international ones. It
should be known that in a
championship of Europe, it y
perhaps four or five countries
(out of 36) where the players are
as well treated. Everywhere else,
the players must support a share
of the expenses of the
competition, without same speech
to be paid to take part in it.
However, it is not false to
say that for a few years a
certain tension has been
established between the players
of the elite and the leaders.
Those want to direct without too
much dialogue, these always do
not support the decisions with
the punch and play a little the
stars. On these questions
épidermiques than serious a
basic problem is grafted, which
is the exact nature of the
professionalisation of the
bridge. The players ask it, the
leaders see it of an evil eye.
Moreover, all returns in the
order in the event of success, as
one saw in Estoril the last
autumn.
Dany - What gains on average a
player who gains an international
competition of first order?
PC it has there no
remuneration offered by the
organizers of the international
competitions. The only thing that
you receive when you gain a
title, it is a vigorous accodance
of the president. However, the
French Federation set up a scale
of premiums in the event of
success in the great
championships. The players
champions of the world thus
touched approximately 13.000
euros for their title.
Dany - These profits are
sufficient to motivate the
players and to ensure material
peace necessary to them to devote
itself exclusively to the Bridge?
PC - Absolutely not. The title
gained by the Frenchwomen was the
first of the history of the
French bridge. 13.000 euros in
forty years, that does not pay
the rent! For the simple
participation in team of France,
the premium turns around 5.000
euros. It is not so badly, but,
if one regards this premium as a
remuneration, it should be put in
connection with the time spent in
selection, drives and in the
championship itself. That is to
say largely more than one
full-time month.
Dany - do you Think that one
day there could be a professional
bridge in France?
PC I wish it, if we want that
our country remains competitive
in a discipline where Americans,
Italians and many other champions
English, Swedish, indonésiens or
Polish is full-time professionals
right now.
Dany - Which conditions be
necessary would to arrive there?
PC - One only solution: to
find money! Or the Federation
decides to pay its best players
monthly - it would have of them
possibly the means, but the
political good-will does not have
any, and it is well its right. Or
the players are sponsored
directly by firms - the Italian
model - or by individuals - the
American model. Still it is
necessary, and it is there the
point of friction which I evoked
above, that the Federation, not
only is not opposed like it does
it today with such solutions, but
supports them
Dany it Bridge on line is a
formidable tool for the practice
of this play and the recognition
of its Champions through the
vugraph of BBO.
PC - Without any doubt
Dany it has there noises which
run on the fact that the FFB
would open in September a French
BBO?
Summers you with the current?
Can you confirm?
PC - Yes, a contact was made
between the F.F.B and Fred
Gittelman for this purpose.
Would Dany - How present this
French BBO?
PC I could not say to you: on
the one hand the subject, seems
to me it, is still under
discussion, on the other hand it
is frankly not my field.
Dany there are you favorable?
PC I am very favorable,
personally, with an implication
of the Federation in the bridge
in line, which it is necessary to
regard a development tool and not
as a competition made with the
clubs. I adore BBO and I would be
thus very content with an
agreement of the F.F.B with this
site. As for the exact methods,
they are a little indifferent for
me, even if I do not like too the
idea of an access paying to BBO,
though it arrives. On the other
hand, one can undoubtedly propose
complementary services which
them, could be paying.
Dany - If you had a book of
bridge to advise which would be?
PC - All depends on the level
of the reader. To learn the
system from French bidding, why
not the Small
Partner? (lol). But to like
the bridge, then, without any
doubt, Bridge in the Menagerie,
of Victor Mollo, the funniest
book, and most malignant, ever
written on our play.
Dany - Which is that which
fascinated you the most?
PC - Adventures in card
play, of Geza Ottlick and
Hugh Kelsey. When I read it, that
was a dazzling. But it is really
a difficult book.
Dany - Which is that which
helped you the most when you
began?
PC - the simple and
modern Bridge of Jaïs and
Lahana (it was before the major
one 5th!) It is the book in which
I learned how to raise.
Dany - Which is that which you
consult most regularly?
PC - For all to say to you, I
have in my opinion one of the
most important libraries of
bridge of France. Today, it must
comprise a little more than
thousand works
When I want
to slacken, or to go back the
head to the bridge, I read a book
of card deck in English (Kelsey,
Reese, etc) If not, I often throw
a glance with the Dictionary of
the handlings of color, Jean-Marc
Roudinesco, to see whether I were
mistaken
Dany - Which is your best
memory related to the Bridge?
PC - the bridge provided me
good memories enormously. But
best today (because it is one of
most recent, perhaps) it is the
victory of Benedicte with
Estoril. This title, that the
Frenchwomen waited since so many
years, which had them escaped in
an incredible way in Paris in
2001, got an extraordinary
emotion and a joy to me. I
believe that I was happier than
it!
Worse Dany it?
PC - That, it is easy.
Brighton, 1987. I play in team of
France with Michel Lebel, we are
associated Chemla-Perron and
Abécassis-Soulet, and we belong
to the favourites for the title.
For my part, I estimate that it
is the strongest team in whom I
ever played. And on top, Chemla
and Abécassis are annoyed, there
are scenes all the championship
and, on arrival, we finish
seventh, which constituted at the
time the worst classification
ever obtained by a team of
France. Fifteen days of hell.
While returning, I said myself
It is finished for me, that
does not interest me, their
C
. And I decided to
stop the very high-level
competition, and to play
sponsored during ten years!
Dany - Which (S) quality (S)
seems essential to you (S) at a
partner?
PC - solidarity within the
pair and clearness.
Dany - Which (S) defect (S)
hate you more?
PC - bad faith
Dany - the player who you
fascine more?
PC - Michel Perron
Dany - the player who you
fascine more?
PC - My wife, obviously!
Dany - I infinitely thank you
in the name of all impassioned
Bridge in general and for
GogosBridgeurs in particular, to
have agreed to answer these
questions which make it possible
to better know you.
We wish you greatest success
in Open team
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